[Athen] [EXT]Re: Powerpoint, screenreaders and text boxes

Robert Beach rbeach at KCKCC.EDU
Fri Jan 31 07:26:40 PST 2020


I haven’t been able to get NVDA or JAWS to read the outline pane since Office 2007. That really disappoints me since I used it a lot.


Robert Lee Beach
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Yes, I would be curious to see how VoiceOver behaves with it. I could try it on my iPhone but that would be cumbersome.

One thing I haven't been able to do is get NVDA to read the outline view pane. I can get to the outline pane but then nothing is read when move through outline with the down arrow. I assume that is possible. That would be a good demonstration to students. Thanks for the feedback.

-Howard

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 6:36 AM Robert Beach <rbeach at kckcc.edu<mailto:rbeach at kckcc.edu>> wrote:
Actually, both NVDA and JAWS can see them and read them, but it isn’t reliable. Plus, if a student needs an alternate format of the PPT, then somebody has to retype all of those textboxes. I’m not sure how Voice Over deals with the textboxes since I haven’t tried it yet.


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Well, that’s interesting! NVDA is always making advancements, unlike Jaws, and they may have solved this puzzle.

However, if a screenreader user is using Jaws, then there will still be a problem as Jaws won’t read (or even see) those text boxes.

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Subject: [Athen] Powerpoint, screenreaders and text boxes

I've been playing around with PowerPoint (2013 for Windows) and NVDA. It's always been emphasized not to use text boxes and instead to use the slide layouts but I notice that NVDA reads the text boxes without problem although you may need to rearrange the order in the selection pane. I can see that the text boxes are missing from the outline view but I can't see to get NVDA to read that pane in any case.

Does the admonition against text boxes still apply?

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