[Athen] Share positive messaging (was Re: Zoom has some inaccessible features)

[Lucy GRECO]

Hello -

It would be helpful if we could stop emphasizing that "Zoom has some
inaccessible features"? I've also changed the subject line to suggest that
we share more positive messaging.

There are a few features lacking in Zoom; however, in this time of crisis
we should be promoting the positive side of things as well as companies who
are making an effort with accessibility.

Zoom has been accessible and excellent in most areas, and frankly no other
tool holds a candle to it.

If someone new gets one of these messages, they might not go past the "Zoom
has some inaccessible features" subject line, which would be unfortunate if
they would benefit from using Zoom and are misdirected.

Thanks,
Lucy

Lucia Greco
Web Accessibility Evangelist
IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
University of California, Berkeley
(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
Follow me on twitter @accessaces



On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 9:49 AM Deborah Armstrong <armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu>
wrote:


> I will have to try this with NVDA, but with the JAWS scripts the chat text

> is easy to read and select. It’s using the virtual cursor. I never had

> issues working with the chat. I’ve used it extensively in webinars, often

> more than my voice, because I take webinars at work where I don’t want to

> talk.

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> As for pasting the links, I just paste them directly in to the browser

> address bar or the run box. I get lots of emails and documents where a link

> isn’t clickable – sighted folk do too, and you have to copy and paste the

> link in to the browser.

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> The bigger concern I think is going to be online tutoring which is likely

> to rely on the inaccessible whiteboard and screen sharing.

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> And I’m expecting our BVI students to still want to work with tutors.

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> *From:* athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu> *On

> Behalf Of *Travis Roth

> *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2020 7:37 AM

> *To:* 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' <

> athen-list at u.washington.edu>

> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Zoom has some inaccessible features

>

>

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> It is possible to highlight the chat message with arrow keys, move to the

> More actions button and choose copy message and paste the message in a text

> editor and copy the link from there.

>

> It is a frustrating and tedious workaround but sometimes necessary when

> working with colleagues.

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> *From:* athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu> *On

> Behalf Of *Brian Richwine

> *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2020 8:51 AM

> *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network <

> athen-list at u.washington.edu>

> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Zoom has some inaccessible features

>

>

>

> Another important limitation with Zoom to keep in mind: Links posted in

> the chat are not accessible. The only work around would be to email out

> links separately or perhaps save the chat transcript and then email out the

> chat transcript.

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>

> -Brian

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> On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 5:21 PM Deborah Armstrong <

> armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu> wrote:

>

> Though zoom is popular with BVI folks like my previous message said, the

> whiteboard and screen sharing are not accessible.

>

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> The whiteboard can not be accessed with the keyboard or read with a screen

> reader. Shared screens are also not text-based.

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> Instructors need to know that they’ll have to read what’s written on their

> digital boards and provide handouts a student can open in a separate window

> rather than just viewing the instructor’s shared screen.

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> But sharing your screen as a screen reader user is both keyboard and voice

> accessible, plus the ability to record and control other aspects of zoom is

> accessible as well.

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>

> --Debee

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