[Athen] [EXT]Re: Replacing Adobe Pro with FoxIT Pro
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Mon Jun 21 09:29:38 PDT 2021
/Quote: Enough people have stated that Adobe doesn't do great OCR, though, so it must be true, /EndQuote
Oh, gosh, please don’t take that line of thinking about anything! Always verify the data behind your decisions and beliefs. A good example: The Ex-President and thousands of his followers say the election was stolen. Just because “enough people” believe him doesn’t make it true. It’s called an echo-chamber, where we follow the crowd and blindly repeat stuff.
Back to OCR:
Adobe does a fine job with OCR, but several things can create less-than-ideal results:
1) a bad original, where the type is faint, fuzzy, broken, or has parts of letters missing.
2) the OCR settings in Acrobat.
Once in the Scan and OCR panel, select Enhance / Scanned Document.
Then select Enhance and reset the default settings. Change the language if necessary.
We’ve found no one OCR package to be ideal for all types of documents, so we try Acrobat and 80% of the time keep its interpretation. We use ABBBY Fine Reader when we’re not happy with Acrobat’s results. Sometimes it’s better, other times not. Such much about OCR depends upon the source file.
And with any OCR program, always do a substantial spot check to ensure that the software correctly caught the word-spaces, periods, commas, semi-colons and colons. Also, several letter combinations can be problems for all software: d a r n becomes dam, and c l u b becomes dub.
Some people might prefer ABBYY because it has some features that are especially helpful to those using screen readers and other text-to-speech software.
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I'm using a screen reader. It may just be that I don't do enough OCR to notice the difference, and usually for my own reading Adobe is sufficient. Enough people have stated that Adobe doesn't do great OCR, though, so it must be true, I've just not seen the difference myself.
Robert
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 10:27 AM Robert Beach <rbeach at kckcc.edu <mailto:rbeach at kckcc.edu> > wrote:
Robert,
Are you reviewing your Adobe OCR results with a screen reader or are you reviewing the results visually on the screen? Sometimes, the screen looks like everything went perfect and the text is the same as the original. However, what you see on the screen may be the original image of text and the actual OCR text is behind that. This may be why you feel you are getting good OCR from Adobe. I’ve personally never gotten good OCR from Adobe.
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Hi Susan, thanks for your reply. Can you explain more why OCR isn't as good in Adobe as it is in Abbyy? We have a very old version of Abbyy which is no longer supported, and I would probably have a hard time making the argument to purchase both Abbyy and Adobe, or Abbyy and FoxIT as it may be in the future. I personally have not found Adobe OCR to be a problem, but I'm sure the volume of OCR work you do exceeds mine so you'd have a better idea.
Robert
On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 1:16 PM Susan Kelmer <Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu> wrote:
If you are using Adobe Pro for OCR, you are missing better functionality that could be had with Abbyy Finereader or Omnipage (we are an Omni shop and I would never count on Adobe Pro for OCR). We only use Adobe Pro for breaking up files or fixing reading order, that sort of thing. Its ability to OCR is definitely substandard. :(
I cannot speak for the accessibility of FoxIT, so hopefully others have good, solid answers.
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Subject: [Athen] Replacing Adobe Pro with FoxIT Pro
Hi all, our campus is encouraging all units to stop purchasing Adobe Pro, and instead switch to FoxIT Pro. We primarily use Adobe Pro for OCR as well as editing book scans and publisher files. Does anyone here have experience with FoxIT? How is its accessibility with screen readers? I understand that the ability of blind people to edit PDFs is limited anyway, but is navigating the program interface accessible? Can it perform OCR as well as Adobe, and handle all the book editing functions? Thanks for your responses!
Robert
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