[Athen] [EXT]Re: VoiceOver expert and PDF journal article

[Ann Newland]

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On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 1:23 PM Robert Beach <rbeach at kckcc.edu> wrote:


> Have you tried opening the PDF in Apple Books? I haven’t tried it myself

> but I have been told that Books handles PDF files pretty well, at least

> they used to.

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> *From:* athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu> *On

> Behalf Of *Russell Solowoniuk

> *Sent:* Monday, September 26, 2022 4:47 PM

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> Hi Mark,

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> It’s been my experience with VoiceOver, on macOS, that PDFs do not read

> well at all. By default PDFs open in Preview, the Mac’s Adobe Reader

> equivalent. You can use Adobe Reader for Mac, but I don’t think the

> experience is much better. I’ve never been able to navigate in a PDF on the

> Mac by headings, or even been able to read a PDF smoothly. I’d have to try

> navigate a table in a PDF on the Mac to see if it works well, but I have a

> suspicion that it won’t.

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> I don’t consider myself a VoiceOver expert, so perhaps someone with more

> experience using PDFs on the Mac can comment further.

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> Thanks,

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> Russell

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> *From:* athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu> *On

> Behalf Of *Mark Weiler

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> Is there a VoiceOver expert that could meet via Zoom and share your screen

> and sound as you step through an example of a PDF-based journal article

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> Checking out things like headings, tables, lists, and reading order.

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