[Athen] Math accessibility question - need feedback

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You’re spot on with the ease of use and levels of use you can get of of
MathPix. It’s a terrific program!!

Wink
Wink Harner
Assistive Technology Consulting and Training
Alternative Text Production
Portland OR.

foreigntype at gmail.com


On Fri, Nov 3, 2023 at 4:08 PM Joshua Hori <jhori at ucdavis.edu> wrote:


> Hey Wink!

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> Some of the smaller math equations would be fine in EquatiO, but most of

> our math is statistics, physics, linear algebra, and the like. Long complex

> equations which may be difficult to capture the whole equation the first

> time around in audio.

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> After using Mathplayer, InftyEditor, and Wiris to edit math…I couldn’t

> bring myself to go backwards when it comes to STEM content. Mathpix sealed

> the deal.

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> Besides, I want fun math accommodations like Calcflow

> <https://www.meta.com/experiences/pcvr/1143046855744783/>.

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> Joshua

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> *From: *athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu> on

> behalf of foreigntype at gmail.com <foreigntype at gmail.com>

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> *Date: *Friday, November 3, 2023 at 2:38 PM

> *To: *Access Technology Higher Education Network <

> athen-list at u.washington.edu>

> *Subject: *Re: [Athen] Math accessibility question - need feedback

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> Josh,

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> To be fair, the student version of EquatIO is a TTS reader and meant for

> students with a reading disability. For alt text production work, it's

> possible to use the profesional educational version to convert image based

> math to mathML which can then be further manipulated to create accessible

> math for other types of access. There are better, more accurate,  and less

> time consuming processes at our disposal!

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> Wink Harner

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> On Fri, Nov 3, 2023, 1:57 PM Joshua Hori <jhori at ucdavis.edu> wrote:

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> You are correct J, and I agree with you wholeheartedly, which is the

> reason we haven’t invest in EquatiO. It’s an alt tag embedded in an image

> equation with no ability to navigate the equation.

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> We offer math in DOC or HTML format for complete accessibility and PDF for

> limited accessibility (only numbers are read aloud).

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> Mathpix has made making math easy! They export math in multiple formats

> quickly.

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> Best,

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> Joshua

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> *From: *athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman12.u.washington.edu> on

> behalf of Romack, Justin <justinr at disability.tamu.edu>

> *Date: *Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 10:01 AM

> *To: *athen-list at u.washington.edu <athen-list at u.washington.edu>

> *Subject: *[Athen] Math accessibility question - need feedback

>

> Howdy y’all!

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> I’m totally blind, so I’m trying to be cautious in approaching my question

> here and the response I provide to others in similar discussions as to not

> inject my bias…

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> But when producing accessible STEM content (specifically materials with

> equations), is it widely agreed upon that equations as images with alt text

> are less preferrable or not acceptable as compared to the same equations

> provided in MathML?

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> I’m seeing a trend where STEM content is shared as a PDF and, while

> equations are properly tagged with alt text that is a textual

> representation of the content being displayed, I find this far less

> navigable than would be a document with equations in MathML.

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> Is it technically accessible? Debatable. Is it functionally equivalent or

> equitable access… My opinion is no.

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> Would love for you to chime in!

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> Thanks,

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> J

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