[Athen] Is Windows 10 driving anyone else crazy? (Howard Kramer)

Robert Spangler rspangler1 at udayton.edu
Wed Dec 6 12:18:12 PST 2017


Hello:

Edge is included in Windows, but you are not forced to use it. Internet
Explorer has been included with Windows for years prior to Win 10. You can
set another browser as your default in Settings.

The browser is accessible and becomes even more so with each release of
Edge and the screen readers. There were some very major under-the-hood
changes, so everything had to be optimized to work with it.

Personally, I am not an Edge user and do not plan on being one. But let's
not shut something down that is A) being improved and B) provides
individuals with disabilities with another choice.

Robert


On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Chagnon | PubCom <chagnon at pubcom.com> wrote:


> In previous versions of Win 10, I was able to remove (uninstall) Edge

> completely from our computers.

>

> Now, that has been disabled and I’m stuck with Edge even though I don’t

> use it.

>

>

>

> Still believe this is an anit-trust issue that should be reported to the

> Federal Trade Commission (the OS can’t force us to use its browser). It’s

> also an ADA issue that should be reported to DOJ’s ADA office because Edge

> is not fully accessible.

>

>

>

> —Bevi Chagnon

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> Bevi Chagnon is a US delegate (ANSI) to the ISO for PDF and PDF/UA

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> *From:* athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu] *On

> Behalf Of *Doug Hayman

> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 6, 2017 12:44 PM

> *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network <

> athen-list at u.washington.edu>

> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Is Windows 10 driving anyone else crazy? (Howard

> Kramer)

>

>

>

> I found that Windows 10 appears to have a setting to pause updates for "up

> to 35 days" by clicking

>

>

>

> Start button >>Settings icon>>Update & Security>>Update Settings>>Advanced

> Options>>Pause Updates

>

>

>

> The most recent update fail I watched was a person using a screenreader

> doing a presentation which was promptly halted by him saying "What happened

> to my screenreader?" while the audience saw the projected presentation

> change to the "Please wait....installing updates." screen.

>

>

>

> Haven't tried the pause option yet. Have seen some of the updates take

> hours. Start them running, go to lunch and come back to see it still

> hasn't completed. That just doesn't work for most users.

>

>

>

> Over the years it seems like every other operating system is a failure:

>

>

>

> 98-good

>

> ME-horrible

>

> XP-good

>

> Vista-terrible

>

> 7-good

>

> 8.x-horrible

>

> 10-um, needs improvement

>

>

>

> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Swanson, Andrew <aswans15 at msudenver.edu>

> wrote:

>

> I noticed if you do a registry edit and then you update the computer, it

> resets your reg edit. The best thing you can do, which you may not to be

> able to on a work comp, is to disable the updates. A quick google search on

> "how to disable windows 10 updates" should yield results.

>

> Also it helps to unpin everything from the start menu by right clicking on

> the item you want to remove.

>

> You can also remove the Cortana task bar by right clicking on it and

> changing it to hidden.

>

> You can remove the Action Center notifications as well by going to

> Settings > System > Notifications & Actions and clicking "Turn System Icons

> On or Off".

>

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> From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu]

> On Behalf Of Howard Kramer

> Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 1:02 PM

> To: Access Technology Higher Education Network <

> athen-list at u.washington.edu<mailto:athen-list at u.washington.edu>>

> Subject: [Athen] Is Windows 10 driving anyone else crazy?

>

> Just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this. I also wonder if it's

> a combination of the age of my HP laptop or just Windows 10. Settings are

> continuously overwritten every time there's an update which can take up to

> a half-hour. Mouse driver for my touchpad works like crap with the newest

> driver version. I roll it back to a previous version which works better and

> then the Windows update reverses this at the next update and I have to

> start all over again.

>

> Edge is repeatedly set as the default PDF viewing. I've tried editing the

> registry so this doesn't happen but with no luck. I have never been so

> frustrated with Windows and never considered changing to a different O/S

> until now. I feel like my productively (i.e. time) is undermined by about

> 5%. Ok, that's my rant for Monday.

>

> -Howard

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