[Athen] Pagination issues in Alt Format

Robert Beach rbeach at KCKCC.EDU
Thu Jan 4 05:38:36 PST 2018

As far as I can remember, the PDF pages are identical to the printed version of the book. If I’ve come across one that didn’t match, I can’t recall it.

Robert Lee Beach
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From: athen-list [mailto:athen-list-bounces at mailman13.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Spangler
Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2018 2:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [Athen] Pagination issues in Alt Format

Hello, I've never gotten any complaints about this but I do inform the students that the pagination may not always match. If I request a PDF version of an alternative text from the publisher, either through ATN or the publisher directly, do the pages usually match up with the text?

On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Susan Kelmer <Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu<mailto:Susan.Kelmer at colorado.edu>> wrote:
Have you asked the publisher why the EPUB files do not have correct pagination? They should. Students may get assignments that say “read pages 22 through 78” but if the page numbers in the EPUB aren’t correct, then they aren’t reading the appropriate material. As a student, this would be a major frustration.

Also, no, it is not unusual for a student to be using BOTH inputs for reading. Many of my students are letting the computer read out loud while their eyes are on the books.

Susan Kelmer
Alternate Format Production Program Manager
Disability Services
University of Colorado Boulder

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Subject: [Athen] Pagination issues in Alt Format

We have been making much better use of EPUB files for students requesting alt format of textbooks. For students that prefer to use Kurzweil 3000, we've loaded EPUB files and saved to their Universal Library. Some students have complained that the EUPB pagination does not match the print book. I've communicated that content is the same while pagination may differ and that the bookmark/search features can assist with navigation. The only other alternative to having pagination match exactly would be to scan in the physical textbook which we prefer not to do if accessible versions exist.

Is it common for students to rely so heavily on their print book while also receiving alt format?

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