[Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: Marking Table Headers in Word
Heather Mariger
heather.mariger at chemeketa.edu
Fri Sep 20 15:28:58 PDT 2019
Greetings,
Here is an example I used for testing. I could not find the "top row"
checkbox you mentioned - is that a 365 thing?
I have also attached the resulting PDF. Any ideas are welcome...
Thanks,
H.
*Heather Mariger*
*Digital Accessibility Advocate*
*Center for Academic Innovation*
*Chemeketa Community College*
*4000 Lancaster Drive NE - 9/126A*
*Salem, OR 97305*
503.589.7832
*****************
*Diversity is being invited to the party; inclusion is being asked to
dance. *
Verna Myers, author and speaker
On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 3:00 PM Sean Keegan <skeegan at ccctechcenter.org>
wrote:
> Hi Heather,
>
> Can you share the MS Word document?
>
> I just ran a quick test with a simple data table using MS Word 365 and
> Acrobat Pro DC. Word is version 1908 and Acrobat DC is 19.012.20040. I
> tested two similar tables with the following parameters:
>
> 1) Header Rows checkbox selected + First Row checkbox selected
>
> 2) With Header Rows and First Row checkbox selected and Repeat As Header
> Row at the Top of Each Page checkbox selected.
>
>
> For MS Word, the Accessibility Checker is showing no errors for the data
> table.
>
> When converting to PDF (via Adobe Acrobat plugin), I now get the <TH>
> elements on the correct table cells (the column headers and the first row
> headers). This happens for both situation #1 and #2 listed above; in other
> words, no real difference in the PDF tagging.
>
> Using a previous version of MS Word (not 365), I know I received a
> difference in the PDF output when I did NOT check the Repeat as Header Row
> at the Top of Each Page option. However, is using the latest MS Word 365
> and Adobe Acrobat DC to create the PDF, then you will get the correct <TH>
> elements in both situation #1 and #2.
>
> Sounds like there is now discrepancy between MS Word 2019 and 365 if every
> single table cell is receiving the <TH> element if checking both Header
> options. Super fun...
>
> Take care,
> Sean
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 12:16 PM Heather Mariger <
> heather.mariger at chemeketa.edu> wrote:
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Regarding table headings in Word - I found an odd issue with converting
>> tables to PDF from Word. We just converted to Office 2019.
>>
>> When I create a table, I check the Header Row box and the Repeat Header
>> Rows (as I was taught - and have subsequently taught to faculty). However,
>> whenever I convert the document to a PDF, it labels EVERY cell as a Table
>> Header. I tried multiple iterations and found that checking Header Row
>> ONLY, it will label the table headers and data rows correctly.
>>
>> Has anyone else had this issue? Is the Word Document still
>> properly formatted if I tell them to only check the Header Row box?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> H.
>>
>> *Heather Mariger*
>> *Digital Accessibility Advocate*
>>
>> *Center for Academic Innovation*
>> *Chemeketa Community College*
>> *4000 Lancaster Drive NE - 9/126A*
>> *Salem, OR 97305*
>>
>> 503.589.7832
>>
>> *****************
>> *Diversity is being invited to the party; inclusion is being asked to
>> dance. *
>> Verna Myers, author and speaker
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 8:52 AM Sean Keegan <skeegan at ccctechcenter.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> > My question is whether it is best to use one method
>>> > over the other, or should we use both?
>>>
>>> In working with Word 365 recently, I found that it's best to do both -
>>> that is, mark the Header Row option in the Table Design Ribbon and mark the
>>> Repeat Header Rows. The Word Accessibility Checker was throwing the error
>>> if you did not check the Header Row option and if you were converting to
>>> PDF, then the Repeat Header Rows needed to be checked as well if you wanted
>>> those cells to be recognized as <TH> elements.
>>>
>>> Microsoft has a video for Creating Accessible Tables in Word (see
>>> https://support.office.com/en-us/article/video-create-accessible-tables-in-word-cb464015-59dc-46a0-ac01-6217c62210e5).
>>> The best part is that the "Try It!" section identifies how to create a
>>> table with headers using the Header Row option in the Table Styles Options
>>> group. The video, however, demonstrates how to go into the Table Properties
>>> and in the Row tab, to check the "Repeat as header row at the top of each
>>> page" option. So much for consistency.
>>>
>>> To Karen's point, you never know how the document may be changed.
>>> Further, with both MS Word and Acrobat now moving to a more continuous
>>> release cycle for the apps, you never know when the vendors will make
>>> changes behind the scenes.
>>>
>>> Take care,
>>> Sean
>>>
>>>
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