[Athen] Making accessible info with InDesign? AHG resources

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And I'm hoping to be accepted to present again at November's AHG conference.

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Bevi Chagnon has shared her expertise in this area for the last several
years at Accessing Higher Ground - I know you can purchase access to the
video recordings if anyone is interested.  
2018 has a five hour workshop -
https://accessinghigherground.org/accessible-adobe-indesign-layouts-to-produ
ce-accessible-pdfs-and-epubs/ 
2019 https://accessinghigherground.org/accessible-indesign-pdf-refresher/
(no video - 2 hour session  transcripts or audio) (FREE)
2020:
https://accessinghigherground.org/adobe-indesign-layouts-to-produce-accessib
le-pdfs/ (3 hours). This was a preconference session - I believe access is
$90.



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Okay, to be fair...

InDesign is for laying out material.  It is what Adobe Pagemaker used to be
(for those of you who have been around a while).  You make text boxes and
add pictures and manipulate layout, and come up with a file that can be
printed onto paper.  Ala 1990. InDesign and Pagemaker were a replacement for
the manual labor of physically creating the paper print using exacto knives
and glue and light boards (for those that have been around even longer).  In
operation, it is not intended to be a program that provides all that
accessibility for the outputted file.  I do not fault Adobe for this.  There
is, as far as I know, NO program that will do this completely effectively.

If you want to have an accessible output, you will have to do what you've
always done - work it out in Adobe Acrobat Pro on the completed file.
InDesign is not a text-based program, like Word is.  Word is easy to output
into a reasonably accessible PDF.  InDesign was never intended for that
purpose, and runs on an old Pagemaker backbone that would have to be written
from the ground up.

And the only way for that to be a priority for companies like Adobe is if
there is money in it.  No one is clamoring to Adobe to make InDesign produce
accessible PDFs.  Until  they are, that won't change.

Susan Kelmer
Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Division of
Student Affairs T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices

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